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Haplogroup R2 (Y-DNA) / Re: i'm R2a1a, please need help?
« Last post by seferhabahir on Today at 01:26:23 AM »
what does cluster mean?

I, and others, usually use the phrase "Y-DNA cluster" to mean a group of test results (usually found within a FTDNA project) that are identifiable as being genetically related because of observable similarities in some of their STR markers. The members of these clusters presumably descend from the same common ancestor (hence the term TMRCA - time to most recent common ancestor). One of the ways to  know that members of a cluster actually do descend from a common ancestor is to identify certain SNPs that they all have in common through inheriting paternal Y-DNA mutations, in addition to the similarities in their STR markers.
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Haplogroup R2 (Y-DNA) / Re: i'm R2a1a, please need help?
« Last post by sayed1 on August 18, 2014, 05:54:54 AM »
what does cluster mean?
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Haplogroup R2 (Y-DNA) / Re: i'm R2a1a, please need help?
« Last post by seferhabahir on August 17, 2014, 06:29:03 PM »
UnderGrounder, I had the SNP's F1092+ and F1758+ L295- and L294- what does that mean?

Abdullah

From a haplogroup perspective, this means that SNPs F1092, F1159, and F3604 are very old incorporating several Middle Eastern clusters as well as an apparent Slovakian cluster (kit B1600 and likely also kit 177636) and that F1758 is downstream from these three SNPs (because we know that B1600 is F1758- based on Geno 2.0 results). SNPs that accurately differentiate the various F1758+ Middle Eastern clusters have yet to be identified. One of them might be F2791, but that is just conjecture as it was not tested on the Geno 2.0 chip.

The various observed clusters under F1758 appear to have diverged up to several thousand years ago, based on the GD differences. In particular, the GD between kit M9344 and N112631 at 111 markers is 36 (very large). There is now likely enough data to be able to place F1092/F1159/F3604 on the ISOGG tree as R2a4 and F1758 underneath it as R2a4a. Note these are different names than the ones in the FTDNA nomenclature (they are using R2a2 for F1092 and R2a2a for F1758).
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Haplogroup R2 (Y-DNA) / Re: i'm R2a1a, please need help?
« Last post by sayed1 on August 17, 2014, 01:14:07 PM »
UnderGrounder, I had the SNP's F1092+ and F1758+ L295- and L294- what does that mean?

Abdullah
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R2 Subclades Discovery / Re: Share your BIG-Y results
« Last post by R2a1Indian on August 06, 2014, 02:57:59 PM »
My paternal Haplogroup is R-L295 tested through geno 2.0. I am from India.
I have attached the csv file.

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R2 Subclades Discovery / Re: Haplogroup R2a* (F1092)
« Last post by yanivicious on August 01, 2014, 07:48:10 PM »
Sounds good, I'll check back for any updates :)
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R2 Subclades Discovery / Re: Haplogroup R2a* (F1092)
« Last post by seferhabahir on July 30, 2014, 10:04:37 PM »
Just got my result for the F1092 marker test - as expected I am positive for HG R-F1092.

Welcome to the F1092 club. I would hold off on any more tests for the moment. I think we will be testing Dardashti for BIG Y and that will give us quite a bit of information about how to differentiate some of these lines.
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R2 Subclades Discovery / Re: Haplogroup R2a* (F1092)
« Last post by yanivicious on July 30, 2014, 09:31:49 AM »
Just got my result for the F1092 marker test - as expected I am positive for HG R-F1092.
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R2 Subclades Discovery / Re: Haplogroup R2a* (F1092)
« Last post by seferhabahir on July 28, 2014, 04:44:15 PM »

M7576 Alshatti is F1758+ and I would guess now that 264819 Fooladi would be also F1758+ although that result is not back yet.

My prediction is that these two kits would also be positive for F2791, since this SNP appears to be an Asian R2 SNP along with the others tested by Fudan University along with F1092 and F1758.

Kit 264819 Fooladi is F1758+ as well. I guess we need a new chart that moves M7576 and 264819 under F1758 with Jewish A, leaving only B1600 as the sole kit under R2a2*. Status of F2791 as it relates to F1092 and F1758 is still not known.
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R2 Subclades Discovery / Re: Haplogroup R2a* (F1092)
« Last post by Eshaghpo on July 28, 2014, 03:05:16 PM »
They said they were but I have not seen it yet.
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